Posts by William Penwell

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Counsel from Bro Losch (GB Member) to the Elders about the NFL

by James Jack in

while attending a week long training class for elders in patterson, bro losch gave the concluding talk about loyalty to the borg, which i was in awe of(i went more in detail in a recent post about a s.a.d.

where losch was the speaker).

at the end of his talk, here's what he said: .

William Penwell

This is nothing new I recall some elders being against any type of professional sporting activity but it was just a few of the old elders that probably never played a sport in their lives.

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IDC Deadly Devotion - Shunned No More

by William Penwell in

my son was saying he seen this episode the other night.

i checked my local cable and it is not on for the coming week but i will make sure to pvr it when it comes on.

this is the second one deadly devotion has done about the jw's.

William Penwell

My son was saying he seen this episode the other night. Did anyone else see it? I checked my local cable and it is not on for the coming week but I will make sure to PVR it when it comes on. This is the second one Deadly Devotion has done about the JW's. The synopsis of the show according to IMDp:

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S.A.D. Observations from the assembly.

by Darkknight757 in

so we had brother losch visiting our special assembly day which was weird in itself.

he's not a very good speaker and seemed like he was in dire need of a nap or something.. anyways just a few observations from the assembly program.

theme: imitate their faith.

William Penwell

Next was the accounts. As was mentioned again on this board, $8000 were sent to the society prior to the convention leaving only $500 in the account. But expenses for this one day were almost $24,000 so the deficit at lunch ($7500) would not have been there if they didn't send all the money to the society.

Typical it makes me sick. Then they end up begging for more money to balance their books. I wonder sometimes if their figures are fudged a bit just to get the contributions up?

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

William Penwell

My mom-in-law, in her late 70's, gave a lifetime of JW worship. Now with all the changes being made, she has expressed shock at the way things are going. My son is currently visiting her and she guilted him into going to the Sunday meeting. The public talk was all about how other religions use Tele-Evanglism or beg for money and how wrong that is and how the Borg has never used that. When she learned of all the changes she was very bewildered and bothered. Another old sister, in her 90's, was upset at the new Tele-Evanglism system. It is upsetting the older ones, they remember the Watchtower and Awake article deriding the things the Borg is now doing and are hurt and perplexed by it all.

I do not think the borg cares about anyone older than 70 as they know they won't be here much longer and to keep the money coming in they have to attract more younger people. I haven't been to a meeting in over 15 years but what I read on here is the WT have changed a lot in the last few years. So much so that anyone that hasn't been around it for a while would be shocked to see what the organization has become.

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

William Penwell

She said, “The Organization doesn’t deserve my money anymore.” She told all the sisters that they should think about doing that because the Watchtower promised that we wouldn’t get old and they lied and have changed the idea to overlapping generations.

I came to the conclusion the WT lied to us 40 years ago. I think even my elderly mother before she died knew that but would never say it.

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I almost died laughing at the meeting last night. OMG WTF is going on? Have I been away this long?

by macys in

ok so most of you guys know already that i am going through the reinstatement process for my parents but i do have a partially sinister plan which i will not mention here since someone told me that there are b-lites that read boards like this.

last night and it was the funniest experience i have ever seen.

besides that the brother doing the sound and video screwed up the whole thing when showing the videos and it took 3 brothers to fix it after 10 minutes, the whole thing was a joke.

William Penwell

Sounds more like an Evangelistic revival.

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

William Penwell

What I don't understand is what was wrong with the old Kingdum Songs? Seems like there is no tradition anymore. I think I understand why the change, to appeal to a younger generation and to heck with the old timers. They figure in order to survive they must change. It was like the video I watched a while back that had a band playing a "worldly" song in a Kingdum Hall and dancing. I was shocked as they would have never allowed this when I was a teenager. Old Freddie is rolling in his grave. All these young whipper snappers would be DF'd in Freddies day.

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Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?

by slimboyfat in

recent developments make me think they might be.

the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.

one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.

William Penwell

Then there was cancelling the book study. Didn't the GB realise that for ordinary JWs this was socially the most important meeting?

I stated this in an earlier post about how the convention have become so sanitized. Again the GB doesn't recognize that the conventions were also a social event for the rank and file. They blew it when they stopped the food services at conventions. Sure some of the brother and sisters were too busy volunteering but it acted as a social function and made the ordinary R&F members feel important and that they contributed to the success of the convention. These old men of the GB have no concept of what the regular R&F members think and feel. Sure we all just accepted this as "Jehovah" directing the GB but you deep down a lot of members questioned their changes.

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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.

by joe134cd in

just read speculation about this on another thread.

who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.

or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.

William Penwell

If I were the WTS, I'd think twice before screwing one of my own attorneys.
Especially if he still has access to confidential info, and knows there is a possibility of the WTS screwing him over.

I would think any attorney's that are obtained by the WT would have to sign some sort of a non-disclosure agreement or confidentiality agreement that anything they know is confidential and could be held libel if they talk about after.

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Changed Will Watchtower You Get Nothing!

by Hadriel in

as i mentioned last week i'm a covert fade.

it dawned on me that i had the watchtower bible and tract society in my will.

i just changed it.

William Penwell

My mom left all her money to us kids. I was surprised that she not leave something with the WT although I know over the years the WT got enough through mom and dad's yearly donations.

All I know is this cult will never get one more cent out of me.